livelavalive: You're My Favorite & Those Other Two Fucking Suck

CAN WE PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO APPLAUD ME GETTING THE CHANCE TO HANG OUT WITH MITCHELL DAVIS FOR 2 HOURS LAST FRIDAY AND HOW IT WASN’T WEIRD (i think) AND HOW YOU SHOULD READ IT NOW!

Okay screaming is over, but I really did get to hang with Mitchell Davis - YouTube sensation, creator, artist, actor, musician…..everything you should probably be versed in to begin with - zee arts. So jump on in as I vibe with the human CD emoji:

MD: Hi! Hello!

JK:  Dammit Mitchell! I was going to do your introduction before you got a chance to….that didn’t work. Anyway…hello!

MD: Hiii! 

JK: I’m Julie.

MD: Im Mitchell. Mitchell Davis.

JK: Oh..I know who you are, I requested the interview after all. 

First off, I just want to say THANK YOU so so so so (x30) much for doing this. 

MD: Aw, no problem. Thanks for reaching out. Everyone thinks that…okay not everyone but in general thinks….well, ya know- I’m just a dude. I’m just a guy - chilling here. I’m glad you reached out, I think it’ll be fun. 

JK: It will! Well hopefully it is. You’re not just a guy though - I am about the same age as you and I have been watching you since about day 1 I’d say.

MD: Me too! 

JK: I guess you can relate, haha. But it just means so much to me because you have inspired me so much with the crap I do. 

MD: That’s awesome. I’m glad we can Yin and Yang on each other’s energy. 

((Mitchell had originally proposed getting to know each other before officiating the interview so I told him a bit of my backstory so he knows who the heck he’s speaking with))

MD: I do have a question for you. Let me interview you, mini-sode. So you said you’re close to my age, how old are you?

JK: 24.

MD: 24, okay. & What got you into interviewing?

((This really caught me off guard for some reason))

JK: Well, I was into being the performer for a long time, about eighteen years really. Ranging from dance to theater to things of that nature - I loved being the one in the spotlight. But I truly love getting to know people - anyone. Anybody that interests me I love to sit down with and pick their brain to both grow as a person and make that connection we as humans crave.

MD: What’s the craziest brain you’ve picked?

JK: Well probably you! But, speaking past tense, would be my last interview- which was with director Michael Mason. That was probably the funnest interview I’ve had…..so far. Not to put pressure on you or anything!

MD: I’ll try to top it! That’s awesome. I mean I’ve just started doing interview stuff so I totally vibe. It’s weird…you want to chime in but want to not. You wanna know but you can’t.  Sometimes there’s not enough time on set and you go, “Shit! I don’t know you but I’m supposed to know you.” It’s weird. It’s such a weird thing but it’s made me so much more aware of just like how everyone is so intense when you really break it down - it’s crazy. A lot of people got a lot of layers that you don’t know about. 

JK: Yeah, totally. I’m going to school to be a drug & alcohol counselor so I love peeling those layers back that you mentioned and just clicking with people. I mean, every interview I have had so far - I have ended up becoming friends with said person. Not that I’m saying we have to become friends after this … but…. I am trying to say I don’t see this as a “formal” interview or anything…I just see it as hanging out, chatting about whatever comes up. I feel like if I have a script - a lot of interviewer’s have scripts prepared - I think that makes it so not real. The only real structure I have to this is writing down a few bullet points but I love letting the conversation flow naturally/organically. I don’t have specific things I HAVE to get to know about you - I want a lasting conversation as opposed to forced responses. 

MD: I’m the same way. The editors hate it in the editing room but I’m always just like…"Look guys, when someone interests me about something, even though I’m supposed to ask them some basic questions.. I’m gonna go off on a tangent. I can’t help it." I was sitting down recently with someone and they, all of a sudden start talking about their interest in botany, how they had cut somebody open in school in their past. This was a person who was playing a teacher. It had nothing to do with what we were talking about. I sat and chatted with them on camera for about twenty minutes about what it was like cutting a person open. At the end of it I just looked into the camera and said, “I’m so sorry. I wasted so many minutes.” But sometimes you just have to know when someone brings up a certain thing. I wanna learn from your experience. 

I also think it’s really interesting that you got away from home and now you’re going to be helping people like that. How is that? Is that scary to you going into that same world again? 

JK: Not really. I mean I grew up with it for eighteen years. To go into it a little bit more, my blood parents are pretty much psychotics - I would say. (literally) I was abused everyday…sexually, verbally and physically….really just fucked up things. I wasn’t able to get away because I grew up in a very cult like Catholic community that had (or has I suppose) a hierarchy. My parents are the head of that hierarchy so they have all of the power / control so I was stuck from a legal standpoint. You’re from the Midwest, can you relate in any sense?

MD: I mean I KNOW what you mean and what you are talking about. I didn’t grow up in a community like that but I know communities exist that are like that. 

JK: Okay well I’ll tell you real quick since we haven’t been talking too long that I’m a very blunt person - so if anything I say is too uncomfortable, just let me know. I’m oblivious. 

MD: Don’t worry about me. Just ask away. You’ve got a solid hour, at least. I’ve scheduled this in my agendlez. I put a button up shirt on. 

JK: Okay so maybe now is a good time to introduce yourself to the people who don’t know who you are. 

MD: Hmm. Hi, hello - this is Mitchell Davis & I am an online creator, I go by livelavalive on YouTube and I am like Andy Warhol with a better sense of humor, I think. 

JK: That wraps it up I’d have to say. I don’t know you that well … but that’s YOU.

MD: Well somewhere between that, too, is a CD emoji. 

JK: YAS! 

I do have to ask - what made you respond to my e-mail? I was expecting you to say “no” or just never respond…so why me? I’m sure you get a lot of e-mails daily requesting similar things soooooo…why me?

MD: Yeah - I liked your title, I liked the subject, and also I do try and respond to all of my e-mails. Even if it’s months, days, years later - I do try! And also….well I don’t know, I remember when I was growing up I e-mailed this photographer a dozen times and he never responded. It broke my heart to pieces and it really tainted his art to me. It bummed me out so much so I always want avoid that as much as humanly possible. If I have a moment I’m gonna take advantage - it gets to the point where I’ll record / send audio messages as responses to people because I have no other way but … I’m gonna tell you my thoughts. 

JK: That is awesome. I like that you are still so humble because, again, I feel like I’ve been on this journey with you - as a lot of your followers do. You were one of the starts of when YouTube became a thing where you make it a career so that’s crazy to me. 

MD: Yeah, I’ve been doing it for too long, haha. 

JK: Noooo…well maybe….no. I was trying to prepare for this interview but really didn’t want to come off as too eager or stalker-ish. Like, “Your birthday is _____ and you last ate at _____”… and I was actually going to watch all of your videos again from start to finish but just decided nah. 

MD: Ah you need time management skills for that anyway. You have better things to do! 

JK: Not exactly but…well I’ve already seen them all! It’s been almost a decade though with LiveLavaLive….

MD: It’s crazy! i’m about to hit the nine year mark. That’s bonkers. Like…LCD Sound System ended at their ten year fold …. well they’re coming back or whatever but still! Ten years is like a round number when things kind of, sometimes, come to an end. But I feel like I’m just getting started, it’s so weird. 

JK: I feel like, well this is a really corny metaphor, but I feel like you are like a tree. You have a lot of branches: your first branch was when had your hair almost like mine but more swooshy and you wore your V-Necks and your hair sweatbands….and you remember, right? You were there or something too I think. Wait, that scene vibe - it was called scene. I was like that too!

MD: Ya know, I’d rather say it was a style choice. 

JK: Well that’s a professional way to say it. 

I remember I bought one of your t-shirts way back when. I don’t have it anymore, no offense, but it was that one that said, “HAPPY BIRTHDAY/YOU’RE FIRED/“..and it said a million more things too. 

MD: That’s crazy too because I’ll get e-mails, still, from District Lines saying someone bought it and I’m just like…what? It’s been so long!

JK :I wore the shit outta that shirt too. It became a shirt I had to part with because it got so raunchy. It looked like I was homeless at one point …

MD: Well there was SO much text on there too that it would get so crinkly after maybe three washes.

JK: At the same time though, that was a really good shirt though. I got so much feedback whenever I wore it. From compliments to just….confusion…I always got comments. I love that kinda humor too - just random, no purpose really humor. 

MD: You couldn’t help but ask about it because you are probably just like frankie says relax shirts and I was just like…I’m going to keep making shirts that make no sense. 

JK: That’s what I love! You watch Portlandia, right? 

MD: Mhmmm.

JK: Because you’re a fan of Fred Armisen … right?

MD: Yes, huge!

JK: Okay so are you caught up on the latest season? 

MD: Uhhhh….

((embarrassment))

JK: It’s okay if you aren’t, I’m just asking. 

MD: I haven’t started the new season but I have it all in my iTunes. I’ve just been so busy that I haven’t been able to watch any shows. 

JK: Well anyway - that show captures part of the humor that I have - almost nonsensical but sensical? Kind of just random crap to throw people off. I love it. 

MD: Perfect, perfect. 

Fred Armisen, Bill Hader, Andy Samberg, Jim Carrey - I love the spontaneous…those people that can kinda just get away with those chameleon parts where you aren’t sure which one is the real them anymore. It’s getting so thick —- like Nathan Fielder. Great example. 

JK: I would say you’re like that too because when you first started you had all of your characters: Stache and…

MD: Jerry.

JK: Yeah! And you’re doing so many other things now - you’re making music, you are an artist. I just feel like you should hold yourself to that standard at this point because you have so many different layers too. 

MD: I’m the Renaissance Man! 

JK: Yes, yes you are. 

Speaking of your music though, I’ve been listening to Might See Hell a lot. I really like it. Well why would I tell you I don’t like it? Yeah fuck your music.

((Sarcasm)) 

https://soundcloud.com/mightseehell

 

MD: Well I really wouldn’t be surprised because it’s … not really like music. Or it’s not like most music at least - normal music. Aw, I’ve been trying not to use that word, “Normal” as much recently. I mean, "Standard" music. It’s not standard.  

JK: I genuinely do like it though because I don’t have anything else in my music library like it. I listen to it a lot at work because it’s … I don’t know if this is a compliment or not but it’s great background music - like a move soundtrack. 

MD: I always say it’s like a movie soundtrack! 

((#twinsies - just saying))

Just there is no movie…it’s just what I describe to you…I just want to provoke feeling on top of other things…I like that though, movie soundtrack. Yes. 

JK: Good - I was afraid that may come across as rude. But that’s how I feel so…deal with it!  

Oh my gosh so you worked with Ron Howard. I feel like that’s a HUGE takeoff for your next era of Mitchell. How was that? Did he approach you….? What happened? 

((Such a humble scoff at the thought Ron Howard would approach him))

MD: No, no. So I started working with a company called New Form Digital about a year and a half ago and I went into a meeting one day - they had called me in because they really liked all of the content I was creating / curating online. I had also just been around in the digital space for a long time and they wanted me to be involved ..and it just kinda happened. The next thing I knew I was in 20 something pilots for this “Incubator Series” and…yeah I’m still doing it. I literally just wrapped another one a few days ago and we are still shooting for Mr. Student Body President right now. I just did my cameo in that two weeks ago. 

http://oscarshotelseries.com/

JK: That is just astounding. I say that because I relate a lot to you. You started YouTube, correct me if I’m wrong, from not really knowing what was gonna happen - you just did it because you liked it and it’s worked. It’s paid off obviously. You stuck to you, and you stuck with it. As someone who tries to live by posting once a week, that’s hard to do especially if you have a grey area of creative block. I’ve had a lot of that. I don’t want it to be forced though, which it seems like you can relate to too, I don’t like feeling like…well I don’t get paid for this so I’m not trying to make others happy before myself. So yeah. I feel like I’ve connected to you a lot in that way because you weren’t born into a name or anything like that - you did it all on your own. 

MD: I always tell people that there wasn’t an artist in the family - nobody does anything like what I do. It’s its own weird little universe that my family, thankfully, is like “We are okay with you doing this thing that we don’t quite understand but we are really proud of the fact that you have the craziness to do it.” You know, it was a tough situation sitting my grandparents down and telling them, “I promise you this is real…just trust me. I feel something’s happening online and ya just gotta let me go for it.” It was totally different. It wasn’t even just my parents because I didn’t live with them. I lived with my grandparents so that’s two generations back now. Two more hurdles to be jumped because they were already not on the same level as my mom or dad so it’s like I’ve gotta teach you what a cell phone is and now I’ve gotta teach you what I’m doing. When I got my first Mac and my grandma still had a PC and she had no idea what I was doing at all. 

JK: But the only thing that matters about it though is that they support you. 

MD: They were also open to letting me explore … with life. 

JK: What would you have done if you never had their support? Would you have stopped or would you just have done it anyway?

MD: Oh man. Can you imagine there’s an alternate universe where there’s like a rebellious LiveLavaLive? A punk version or something like that….all badass and shit.

JK: I hate my grandparents! (Picture apathetic goth from South Park - that’s the way I said that…FYI)

MD: Just going crazy with pulling pranks and just being nuts….but no I can’t even fathom that weird world. From the get-go my grandparents have just held both of my hands and been just a fan of me. If they hadn’t supported me I probably would have just started laughing and said, “I know you’re joking.” 

JK: Well that’s good! A lot of people do not have that. I didn’t have that … I started this whole thing right after I got out of a really bad, abusive relationship. Long story but he would tell me I’m stupid for wanting to do what I’m doing and that it’s dumb to have a blog….that lit a bigger fire in me that I can’t explain. It’s always something I’ve wanted to do though, but it’s hard to put yourself out there on the internet - taking that first step. Me leaving him was my first step to just focussing on me. When you made your first video, was that weird? What made you make you first video?

MD: Mainly, it was an outlet to talk to people. It was a way for me to get out some of the thoughts that I had in my head. I found an outlet and also I just got this computer that had a camera built onto it. I remember watching a lot of early (YouTube) channels and talking to Kyle telling him that I could do that. I really liked doing it and I also didn’t like leaving my house anyway, haha. In fact I’m terrified of it so it was just perfect for me. 

JK: Okay can I interrupt you for a second? When you say terrified of leaving your house, do you mean literally? As in agoraphobia? 

MD: I definitely had some sort of it and I’m still taking quite a bit of meds to stay fine with being outside. I had a lot of panic attacks…I talked a lot about this in Please Subscribe but it ended up just being a digital window for me — starting making videos I mean. I remember it just really clicked with me. I think it clicked with me even before it clicked everywhere else with what it could actually be. I still think to this day how this is a digital canvas and nobody still sees it as, “Eh it’s just a Facebook window…”and I’m just like..No, it’s so much more. Trust me. 

JK: I agree, except I kinda did it the opposite way. I was into art (well I still am), did dance, theater, - all more of the tangible & traditional forms of art for so long - eighteen years really - but when I moved to California it was all cut off for me because I was an “adult” in the government’s eyes so I couldn’t afford these things anymore…so I started using the internet- which is free. 

MD: Yeah, what makes it so great is that the internet almost makes everyone at the same level.

Give me two seconds to crack the door for my cat. 

((two seconds later))

JK: How is Megabyte?? 

MD: She is doing great. I was just discussing with my friend about how she is getting so large …I’m loving every minute of it. She’s getting so strong. 

JK: How old is she?

MD: She’s like three and a half … almost four. It blows my mind how old she’s getting, I feel like I just got her. But she’s going through the whole transition into full “cat’ mode. I don’t want to say she’s getting more lazy but she is getting more lounge-y. She’s just gotten so comfortable with me now. 

JK: I feel like we live a very, very - weirdly parallel - life. I say that because I also have a three year old cat (ish) and his name is Boo and he looks like he could be related to Megabyte. He is also going through that phase you’re mentioning. But, just saying, if Megabyte i single and on the prowl…Boo is a bachelor over here. 

MD I’ll let her know. 

JK: It’d be long distance though..so…that’d be tough. 

Anyway, enough about cats. Why do I always loop it back to cats? 

MD: No - I’m the same way. Every time I’m out I just hear, “Shut up. You’ve talked about your cat like 50 times already.” But, it looked like she was thinking about a sandwich today! 

JK: Yeah - sharing is caring! Most of my friends are having babies and real adult shit and here I am drinking whisky and not shutting up about my three cats. 

MD: Yeah, haha - I know that life. 

JK: So we were talking about being fucked up in the head, basically, with all of our different problems. Oh and not just you specifically - I meant that generally, like literally everyone is fucked up in the head with problems. I have a panic disorder as well and I take medication for it. I wanted to know, did you start taking medication for what you were facing because you knew the industry you wanted to be in would require you to get up and go places or more just for you, because you realized it was a problem?

MD: I think I did it more because I realized it was a problem. I also did it because when I actually started taking YouTube seriously and making a little bit of finance on it I felt like I had the income to see a proper doctor and prior, I was financially never able to do that. I always go back to Yin and Yang because I felt like my audience was growing and I was connecting to them but on the flip side I was getting a check from Google and being able to cash all of it - so why not cash it on the best doctors in this middle of nowhere Ohio town. So I had to figure out what was going on and fix it. I feel like YouTube played a huge part in me getting to where I am now - mentally. Would I be here if I wasn’t able to afford those doctors now? So it was a big deal. 

JK: Well you should be proud of that because I still know a lot of people that can’t take that step, even if financially able to because they simply don’t want to see a doctor.  

MD: It was a huge moment when 789 was happening and I wanted to meet the people that I was entertaining and who was watching me - from both sides of creator and viewer. I wanted to go and that was the thing - I remember just being like, “I have to be able to do this away from the computer too and still be the same person and not be terrified. “ Basically making it appear like that wasn’t really me. I wanted it to be me all the time. 

JK: I get that for sure. I know for my goals to fully happen, I have to venture into the real world - not just type in my blog. I mean, to some extent, you can do most of your career online. I emailed you and here we are talking but there is still more to that in life. I can relate more then you understand.

MD: It’s a weird step but it’s amazing how once you start it - everything kind of comes up and you realize so much about what is actually going on. I don’t know, it was the toughest couple of weeks / months where I was trying new medicines that were just destroying my stomach but I knew that it was a long process. That was probably the hardest part, accepting the process. It’s just like growing hair, man, it’s not overnight. 

JK: Well even when you think you’re cured there’s always still a lingering feeling of those moments that suck.

MD: I still to this day have little moments of catching myself getting frantic so I have to step back and just say, “It’s fine…it’s fine.” & let it be what it is. I think it’s being able to handle that alone is what proves that I’ve done it because before I would have never been able to do that.

JK I’m proud of you for that - if that means anything. 

MD: Thank you - and the backing to that was that I had the internet too. Just like a human friend almost. 

((After this we had s’more conversation and so I obviously had to transition naturally into what I wanted to talk about next by blurting)), 

JK: OKAY, time for an organic change of topic!

MD: Is it still natural and organic if you announce that though? 

JK: Well yeah, if I didn’t say it - how would it be a natural thing???

 I know you’re all about just kind of showing your followers more the positive side of you. Like, if you are having more of a down or crap day you don’t want to reveal that - 

MD: Yeah I’m not big on projecting my bad moods. 

JK: Why though? 

MD: Honestly, I don’t know. I don’t want to say that it’s part of my brand. I don’t think that at all, not one bit because my music is sad. I guess I just feel like there’s no sense in putting those negative vibes out there. Maybe it’ll sit with you and make you in a negative mood. I always think of it was a pay it forward situation but the exact opposite where I’m gonna say, “Doesn’t this suck?” and then everyone will be like, “…it DOES suck!” and then that person is gonna tell someone and then eventually it’ll just be a chain of everyone thinking that thing sucks because I said it since I have a fucking big mouth. 

JK: I think that’s just your mindset though because I believe you can say something that’s real about what’s going on in your life but not make it so negative. 

MD: You’re totally right but I guess… I do share it … just not in a lot of ways that the internet has caught onto. To be fair, a lot of my Tweets on Twitter (do you capitalize the “T” in Tweet? Is it that formal?) are so subtle that I really think half of them nobody knows really what I’m talking about and I like that because it is a way for me to get it out online and then I also have a lot of secret Twitters, a lot of secret online stuff…I’m doing a lot of stuff that people don’t know about. Maybe one day you all will find them. 

JK: I was originally only getting at that you should express all of your feelings - but you are so that’s good. If you bottle them all up I can picture you as a legendary psycho killer. 

MD: I usually use my books. Those things are filled with doodles and stuff. I’m on page two hundred something of my sketch book…Everyone is putting out books right now it seems so I want to put out a trilogy of art books. 

JK: Do it! Oh so speaking of art, on top of the many thank you’s I’ve given so far, I have to thank you for introducing me to Alex Pardee so long ago. He is one of my all time favorite artists, hands down. You interviewed him a long time ago kind of when you first started out.

MD: Oh my god. I look back on that footage and just say…”What was I thinking?!” I didn’t know what I was doing! I was so tired and I was just like…I have to film a video with him, I HAVE to film a video with him! Sporadically I was just like…"I’ll interview him?? Ill interview him!" I cut that up and just remember thinking I have no idea what I am doing but I was SO excited. Buzzing and giddy. It was crazy. 

JK:  don’t know if I should say this but that’s where I’m at right now, haha. I’ve only done a handful of interviews thus far. I did tear up when you responded to my e-mail. I don’t know - I don’t follow too many people regularly on the net, but with you I always felt a weird instant connection. I guess that’s what the internet is for. I knew I wanted to do what you’re doing, in a similar light at least too. To circle around, I asked about why you don’t typically share “negative” things because I come from a whole shit show but I spin it to an advice column with a positive twist where others can be inspired to make the best of a situation - positive vibes. 

MD: Yeah - you flip it. You definitely need an outlet and can’t bottle those things up or you’ll turn out to be a Frank Underwood and maybe just become Donald Trump one day or something. I would like to say though that I hope all of these secret, fun things I’m doing get discovered one day. Like Andy Warhol level. I’m sprinkling it - but just doing it all digitally. If you look really hard enough, I promise you I have given you all of the hints you need. 

JK: You may regret saying that to me, because I don’t know if you’re familiar with Nancy Drew, but she’s one of my absolute idols so I can solve a mystery or two. So I take that as a challenge. I’m gonna crack the Mitchell code.

Getting into Andy Warhol - Have you always been a fan of him?

MD: When I was younger he was always on my radar - just like the classics. I’m reaching back to when I was in gifted/talented classes for art and it really expanded my head as a child to really find art. I latched onto pop art and I really latched onto Warhol’s color and the repetition. Something about it clicked with me - so nonchalant somehow. There was such a spectrum with his artwork. He was one of those very few artists that was just like, “Yeah…yeah. That’s great, thanks.”  I thought that was so freaking cool and I was like I have to steal a little bit of that. 

JK: For sure -  without you having said anything like you just did, I’ve seen a little Warhol in you for a while. That may be only because I’m a huge fan of him too - I learned about him my Freshman year of high school art class and it was just an obsession since. 

MD: The idea of having a factory of space with creative minds … also as someone who was afraid to leave his house and now I want to go everywhere and experience everything. I fantasize about having something similar to that. That is one thing I feel like we are missing right now - not at least that is on my radar. 

JK: Well obviously that’s going to be you. 

MD: Hopefully.

((Crosses fingers)) 

Or not I guess. Whatever. 

JK: I really wanted to touch on you with music because I feel like people do not connect your name with music. & I feel like music is such a big part of you. 

MD: I totally agree. Not many people connect me to music. 

JK: But they should! I love not only the music you create but your LiveLavaLive Radio channel that you do every so often. I try to go to all of them because they are so freaking cool. Usually I’m on Ambien, because I have insomnia, so it’s pretty electrifying and cool to hear all these new tunes or just jam to some classics. 

On Periscope, you have actually answered me a few times! It made my life. I felt like the cool kid in class who got picked first for the kickball team (FYI I was never that kid) The only time that really stands out to me though, and I know it will forever, is when you made fun of your crooked teeth. So, I tweeted you a picture of mine. You looked at the photo and said, “Oh - it’s not that bad….” and then opened the photo full screen and were just like “Blech…well nevermind…” and it was the funniest shit ever because you tried being so kind but you couldn’t help but make a disgusted face. It forever resonates with me. 

MD First off - your teeth are totally fine. I’m looking at them right now.

JK: No! I’ll send you that picture again. Remember your reaction I just described? You made the most disgusted face I have ever seen. 

MD: Okay, okay well this is something about me that is so real …. I look at teeth. I didn’t even notice until this year that it is such a serious thing for me. And… I don’t know! I just look at teeth instantly and it’s the first thing I see on people.

JK: Oh wait, clarify then, do you prefer a perfect smile or are you looking for fucked up teeth?

MD: I guess I’m really saying I look at teeth that fit the face. It sounds so weird but it’s this thing that I look for …and….I don’t know. I like teeth. I like teeth! 

JK: Do you collect them too then? After a first date do you take a tooth from them when they’re asleep and have a stash that you keep for yourself? This is what I’m picturing based off of what you told me. 

MD: I’m not, I’m not! I just like teeth and I’m just a teeth detective. 

JK: My point was originally that I didn’t even take offense to your disgusted reaction to the photo because I embrace my crooked teeth. Luckily my teeth look straight anyway from the front - otherwise I probably would not embrace them as much. That’s also why you just said my teeth look fine, it’s when I go to different angles and you see the jaggedness.

MD: Same here! I tricked everybody. We’re liars. 

JK: I’m a huge liar with my smile. I mean the word “lie”

((Ju-lie, if you forgot-))

is in my name….so I can’t help it. 

Okay enough about teeth and cats….where is this interview even going? I don’t know.

MD: It’ll be titled Teeth and Cats.

JK: Yes! 

MD: Oh my god. You’ll just take all of the stuff that makes sense to that and title it Teeth and Cats. It’s perfect. 

JK: That’s borderline trolling though. I hate those articles that are like, “You Won’t Believe This New Treatment for Acne! Click Here!” and then you click on it and it’s a girl’s haul from Forever 21. 

MD: No that’s perfect - label it “How to Fix Your Crooked Teeth” & we never tell you how to fix your teeth. But then by the time they get to this part…they think it’s hilarious. They’ll say, “Oooh it’s a big joke! Ha. Ha.” 

JK: I doubt that’ll be anybody’s reaction but let’s shoot for that. Let’s do it. 

I try to avoid the question “Where do you see yourself in 5 years?” because it’s not only so basic but creates so much pressure I feel like so….

MD: No, totally. I don’t even know what I’ll be doing in a month. 

JK: What is more of your ultimate goal - when you don’t see yourself worrying about paying the bills or any type of excuse like that? Acting, art, directing? All of the above?

MD: All of the above. I just want to show the world and everyone who has been watching, myself included, (me - for myself) that someone can make it in this century as an artist and be fine because I feel like it’s a dying art to do it all — and that’s what I’m really trying to do. I wanna act, I wanna direct, I want to write, I want to paint, I want to publish. It just pumps in me - I can’t help it. 

JK: You don’t need to know exactly the career title of what you want, that’s not what I meant. You want to stay in the art field is what you’re saying? 

MD: Yes. I mean as much as I am considered a comedian and a host…

JK: I don’t see you that way at all actually. 

MD: I would like it all to be an umbrella of being a really good artist. 

JK: I’ve never considered you a comedian - and I don’t mean that meanly. 

MD: Oh that’s totally fine. It’s just sometimes when I go to these events they’ll put me with people who tell jokes and I don’t really tell jokes, I just tell stories or sometimes I Vlog where it will have funny moments.

JK: I think you are funny - naturally - but when I watch your videos I don’t peg you as a “comedian”, I have always seen “artist”. But that’s just how I’ve always connected with you and your work so…just sayin’! I like your answer though because that means I was right with how I thought I ‘knew” you without really “knowing” you. 

MD: You should answer my next question then! 

((awkward AF silence because of my dumbass))

JK: Wait do you have a question for me? 

((laughs))

MD: Noooo.. I meant you ask me the next question and answer it for me. 

JK: Oh. Oh my god I am so oblivious sometimes with how literally I take things. 

MD: Well I’m glad you clarified - it was amusing.

JK: You know, I clarify a lot of things - really stupid things usually. It’s not something I’m proud of. 

MD: Are you one of those people that when I ask, “What’s up?” You’d say, “The sky.” 

JK: No - that’s fucking rude. We’ve heard that joke since like third grade. I’m not that much of an asshole…well sometimes I am. 

I’m a confusing person. 

MD: That’s okay - if you’ve been to any of my live shows you’d know that I can get sassy too. 

JK: I actually haven’t been to any of your live shows. 

MD: No no no, I meant on the LLR’s and stuff. 

JK: Oh..see?! There I go again. I thought you meant when you were on tour before with Kyle for some reason. 

MD: Yeah as soon as I said it I was like, “That’s what she’s gonna think.” 

JK: I need clarification on some things! 

MD: I will be so specific from now on. 

JK: Pacific. 

MD: Pacific.

JK: Do you have anything you want to talk about instead of me just shouting questions? Anything on your mind? 

MD: We were discussing a little bit about music. 

JK: Oh shit - thank you for bringing me back to that! I know you love Kanye but what would you say is your spectrum of taste? 

MD: I listen to everything and anything - I’m just not a big fan of country. I can vibe with like….old country? Like really classic country - the stuff my grandpa used to listen to type of country. The Blues maybe? But I am influenced everywhere. 

JK: I’m the same way I’d say. If you ever were to look in my iTunes I have a little bit of everything - ABBA, Nicki Manaj, Postal Service…I don’t really turn down anything new - with anything really. I try not to say, “No” to things until I give them a chance & that totally makes me sound like a slut I just realized but I don’t mean it in that way — I mean it more in opportunities or with music…I don’t know I’ll stop talking because that definitely made it weird. 

MD: I will say it’s kind of a thing now to just take the music we are handed and not really explore where there’s such a world out there to discover - and that’s why I like making music so much because…there’s so much music out there and you will never be able to hear it all & I want to hear as much of it as possible. I also want to make as much as I can because it’s important - music has always played a huge role in my feelings and just how I go about my day. It’s a very solid companion I’ve had my entire life. 

JK: Same here! I feel like I keep saying,  “same here”, and I’m not sucking up to you - to clarify (remember I need to do that). But with music, I need it no matter what I’m doing. At all of my jobs, I’ve had to make it a point to let my manager know in the interview that I need music to work. I listen to it to get ready to leave the house, I listen to it sitting in the house….I need it. 

MD: I’m totally the same way. Going back to what you were saying about my music - that’s why I make the music I do. Music can really drive my whole emotions throughout the day and that’s just how I play it too. It’s all very EMO - my music is all real EEEMMOOO. 

JK: Come on don’t bring back that word. 

MD: I’m taking it back!

It means something emotional. 

JK: Okay as long as you are not using it in the middle school way of Hot Topic… which I actually still visit…. I wont lie.

MD: They make good jeans. 

JK: Some of the stuff in there though…

MD: Is real good.

JK Oh so good. 

You know, this whole interview was sponsored by Hot Topic. 

MD: Hot Topic / hottopic.com - if you ever wanna get something in all black and then wonder if it can get any darker? hottopic.com

Have you ever wanted a shirt that has every character from every show on Cartoon Network simultaneously? We got it! Also do you want it to glow in the dark? We got it!

JK: Do you want to cash out with someone that makes you fear a little for your life? Hot Topic has it! 

Okay I’m feeling like we may be beating a dead horse here - which would be sold at Hot Topic in some way! You know I still like Hot Topic. I remember I used to live in there. My typical wardrobe was a band shirt, skinny jeans, chucks and a beanie - which I suppose is my current fashion style just usually without the crowded band t-shirt. 

MD: We’ve progressed. 

JK:  have always wondered with larger name YouTubers - do you read your comments section often? 

MD: I do, I do. I read my @ replies, my e-mails..I will say very openly I am the worst at responding but I promise you I read everything in the world fucking written about me. It’s gotten pretty nuts too.

…. totally kidding on that last part. 

JK: You know I’m a dry, sarcastic person too but it’s so hard to put it all out there upon first meeting someone - I don’t want to come off as too much of a dick. 

So I won’t point out anything specifically but obviously with YT there is always a crap ton of assholes that just have nothing nice to say - if you’re reading all of that negativity, how do you deal with it?  Do you block them? Do you say something witty? Do you not let it affect you?

MD: Every once in a while if I can think of a good joke I’ll respond but for a long time it did bother me. My mirror for the longest time was the comment section and that really fucked with me. Honestly I’ve gained really thick skin from it and now I see bad comments and just think, "It’s incredible that you spend anytime typing this because I am already running out of hours in the day and the fact you use yours to write this? I’m impressed for you. Because you clearly have so much more time then me to type a paragraph about why my fucking hair bothers you."

JK: Well now I just pictured all of your various hairstyles. I love how you change up your hair a lot. 

MD: Now it’s just kind of to the point where it’s comedic - like I can’t believe you’re still doing this…as you said I’ve been around for nine years and you’re still typing the same shit.

JK: Yeah I can relate a TEENY tiny bit because fairly recently I made a post with a condensed version of my life story that didn’t spare too many details. I knew when I posted it that I’d probably get some shit for it because it’s a shocking story that makes people uncomfortable. So someone (or multiple people, I guess) named, "Anonymous" tried to begin a feud. It barely affected me mainly because they are under “Anonymous” but also because I know what I’m saying is true, and I hope it helps others going through something similar….so despite being a little scared with being vulnerable on the net - I’m so glad I did because not only was it liberating but….those types of comments barely, if it all, affected me. 

MD: Well yeah - also to point out you are not wearing a mask and that’s what really differentiates a troll from…well like you said they’re hiding behind the digital front feeling almost invincible. They feel like they can say whatever they want because they are “No One”

JK: It’s also not that I would want to be blind to criticism either. I think criticism makes you better and helps you grow - but it has to be the right kind of feedback. 

MD: Yeah constructive. I say that all of the time. Growing up, especially going into commercial art - we had weekly reviews of criticism to our work and that was a big thing for me. I’d have to stand in front of my class at the end of each week and show my progress and get graded on that. I grew up that way. Every once in a while they would send me really amazing notes….especially in the art world it’s needed to get peer feedback. When I start to stare at something that I made for too long it just destroys itself or you over analyze. 

JK: Or you could even become too cocky thinking you’re the best thing ever when really you can be better. Typically you can always be better. 

MD: I feel like, for me, it’s trained me to notice every little thing. I probably shouldn’t study the things I do the way I do but…I can’t help it. *middle fingers up* Thank you, internet.

JK: To me, it’s much better to have thick skin then to be so sensitive that you cry over every negative comment. 

MD: Well I’m 26 and I’d say I’m a big little man. 

JK: Okay so it’s time to transition again - I’m good at this right? 

Oh so what was the last movie you saw in theaters? 

MD: Oh man - the last movie I saw in theaters? It was alone….

JK: It was called, "Alone?"

MD: No, I went alone and I saw Deadpool. 

((I did tell you to clarify!))

JK: How’d you like it?

MD: I loved it. It was one of the best performances by Ryan Reynolds. I’m so glad that he finally got to play it. He killed it. It was a great performance - I loved the fact that they broke the fourth wall so many times. I loved the fact they portrayed Deadpool as disgusting, vile, and…I left the theater feeling like, "I’m so glad a superhero movie was made that wasn’t total and utter bullshit like all of the other ones." I left thinking, "That was so original! Thank god, thank god." & they were so okay with making fun — there was this moment when he went to headquarters and he was just like, “This sure is a big school for nobody being in the hallways. Looks like nobody got the budget for cameos” and it was just … little things like that I appreciate so much. 

JK: I fucking loved Deadpool! I have always related more to the villains then the superheroes of movies. Superheroes are usually portrayed much more pure then what an actual human is…villains are more appropriate to what we would choose in a situation..ya know? I think Deadpool embodies a realistic antihero/“hero”. 

MD: Yeah he’s an unestablished third party - the write in on the ballot. So that’s what’ so great about it is… yeah he’s an antihero but he is a good dude … he’s just a guy and that’s what makes him so … himself? I didn’t feel like he was written I just felt like he was hanging out - he did what he needed to do for himself which is very selfish but at the end of the day who’s got time to catch every lady in a burning building? Ya know, I’m not Superman … my legs hurt! 

JK: Plus we all are selfish, deep down, usually. No matter how much we wanna say that we wanna give back to every single person - typically we will choose what is better for us first. And there’s nothing wrong with that, it’s human nature. 

MD: I think at the end of the day we have hearts of Superman but habits of Deadpool. We want to do the right thing but there’s only a few hours left in the day and I’m freakin’ hungry!

JK: The last movie I saw in theater was …..

MD: If you say Minions I was gonna flip the desk. 

JK: There’s another fucking Minions movie?? 

....Wait are you a FAN of Minions? 

MD: No. I hate them. 

JK: Oh thank god. I was just about to end this if you said you were a fan….

MD: The fact that they had their own movie blows my mind. 

JK: There’s still merchandise with them on it - like Burger King toys. WTF. WHY?? If I ever saw a Minion, in person, I would probably punch it in the face & throw it off a cliff. 

MD: I’d just bite ‘em or try to eat them.

JK: Hey maybe that would fix your crooked teeth!

MD: No! It would be like a Twinkie.

JK: I don’t think they’re like Twinkies at all, that’s all just an act. If you bit down on one you’d break all of your teeth and they’d laugh menacingly at you. 

The last movie I saw, anyway, was NOT Minions. It was 10 Cloverfield Lane with John Goodman. 

MD: I’ve been told to go see that. Good twists. So are you gonna spoil it? 

JK: Well ya know what happens is…..no I’m not that much of a dick. 

MD: I was told that it was really good and that I would like it. 

JK: You would! It’s superb. I don’t know if you’ve seen the original…or I still don't even know if these movies are connected to be honest. 

MD: I have never seen the original Cloverfield - I was told they are just parallel & that you don’t have to see the original to see this one. 

JK: Yeah so let’s say it’s a 120 minute movie - just watching the first 110 minutes, you would have no idea this is even in the same realm as the original. It’s more like a thriller I’d say. 

MD: Trying to get through the first movie, I felt like I was getting sick. It was too, too shaky. 

JK: This one is not at all. It’s just a normal..movie. I love John Goodman too - he’s the main reason I went and saw it. He plays his character so to a T - out of the park. I would recommend seeing it if you wanna go to the movies anytime soon. 

MD: It is definitely only list. That and Zootopia -

JK: I have heard sooooo many good things about Zootopia - I think that’s my next movie. 

MD: I love going to the movies. It’s a fun little thing to do especially because there’s a great dine in theater by my house so I’ll take myself on a date and it’s wonderful. I just know you can order a beer and relax watching a new movie - I love it. 

JK:Yeah I go to a place called Cinepolis and it’s considered a “luxury” movie theater where you can drink/eat in a leather reclining seat and ever since going there I haven’t been to a normal theater again. 

MD: Same here - you get pampered. 

JK: I love the idea of going out to the movies still in 2016. I do like how you can rent movies pretty quickly now from your PS4 or whatever but I love getting dressed up and going to the theater! I almost feel like it’s going to become a thing of the past and that scares me. Most of my friends never want to go to the movies - they would rather wait and rent it at home on the couch. 

MD: I think it’s just going to keep getting expensive and become more and more niche. It’s not gonna die - I don’t think it will ever go away. People just love it. It’s a weird air. It’s like, “Let’s all go on a vacation to the movies!” 

JK: You and I feel that way but I still fear what I said. Maybe I just have shitty friends, haha. 

MD: I will say ever since getting into the production side of actually making shows - I’ve gotten such a greater respect for what it actually is to make a short film and sometimes getting that chance to see something big, even just once, you can see it all through what they were really trying to say. That is something that you take for granted especially in this day in age where you can get it right now on your phone but going to the movies is an experience that can’t be replaced. 

JK: There is one more question that I wanted to ask you!

((this was seriously the smoothest change of conversation………..))

& I’ll totally judge you based on your answer! 

MD: Go for it! 

JK: Okay it’s really random - and you may think it’s totally stupid but…before I ask I do have to back up the question with a little bit about me. Embarrassing story (as per usual) but I am not religious or anything like that. I never have been - growing up in that little forced Catholic/cult community kinda just put a bitter taste in my mouth. That could change though, who knows. The point is - I didn’t have a lot of friends growing up either (please hold back all tears) so I would talk to the moon all of the time. I saw the face in the moon, he was always there, so I always chatted with him about my worries, my day, whatever.

Saying that out loud sounds so sad, but whatever! 

MD: Actually I love it. I think it’s poetic. 

((The network connection was bad at this point & I coulda sworn he said, “ That’s pathetic.” I nearly died inside for a half of a second.)) 

JK: So now I have this weird connection with the moon I guess? This makes me sound like a crazy person because I’m 24 but when I’m out at night, I really appreciate the moon. I love the moon. So my question for you was what are you thoughts on The Moon?? You know, when you’re out at night do you look at it? Do you swoon at it? …

MD:  I definitely swoon. The moon is a beaut. For sure, and I am very aware of the moon. I’m always looking for the moon (shit me too!) - - I especially love when the moon makes appearances when I feel like it’s not the right time. I love seeing the moon during the day. It’s so alien. I love having enough time to actually watch the moon. I remember back in Ohio when there would be like times when the moon would be so massive - and it’s just another planet that you’re looking at. I always thought the moon was really neat. It’s funny you bring this up because Jack Ferry, the executive producer of Not Too Deep, he is constantly making fun of me because I told him that I would live on the moon. He was like, “What if you never came back?” and I was like, "that’d be fine, I’d just spend the rest of my life up there. I’ve spent enough time here." It would be so fun to go —- and he (Jack) just finds that crazy. Have you ever seen the documentary called, “Lunarcy” ?

JK: No.

MD: It’s on Netflix - it’s about a guy who wants to live on the Moon. 

JK Okay so this whole conversation has been freaking me out because (well in a good way) I’ve literally said the same thing to people. 

MD: It would just be so nice, in my head, to be able to look down at Earth and be like, "every single person is right there."

JK: Well yeah but then if everyone else had this idea then we’d all be on the Moon.

MD: & then we would weigh it down and it’d come crashing into Earth, haha. 

JK: Me too - can you see the face on the Moon? 

MD: For sure - it’s awesome. 

It’s the closest thing we have ; it’s right there. 

JK: But it’s not right there.

((sorry for this sounding like a pot head convo)) 

MD: People are always like, “if there was a road that went to the Moon it would take -x- amount of stretch” and I’m just like, "that’s so obtainable! Let’s do it!" Fucking road trip!

JK: Yes! Even growing up I’ve always had weird, unhealthy obsessions with moon related content: Sailor Moon, Star Trek — just anything incorporating the Moon. 

MD: I always think of the 30 Rock where she meets Buzz Aldrin and they yell at the moon. I loved that. “I WALKED ON YOUR FACE!”  

((cue slow seal laugh - I tried hiding it but it came out. Ugh ))

((After exchanging ideas as to what to title this interview and how to publish it - the conversation, obviously, came back to cats. ))

JK So would you ever get a second cat to keep Megabyte company?

MD: Totally - but I would need a bigger space. 

JK: I think you should! Not to tell you how to live your life or anything but I had Boo, my black cat, for a while as an only child but I work a lot - I work a few different jobs and go to school. So I’m pretty busy, so I got Boo a companion and it really seemed to calm him down and make him happier.

& THEN my friend, shortly after me adopting Peach (my second cat), - was about to have to give up this other cat and I got stuck with him - named him Link. And that’s an abridged version of why I have three cats. But totally get a second one. I’m in a ibe bedroom too, so space can’t be an excuse! 

MD: That’s kind of impressive. I feel like my place is a little too tight and she is a miniature. When I think about double the amount of hair, I lose my mind. I think if i got another it would have to be like a hairless cat.

JK: No I hear you - I don’t hate my cats or anything but it’s terrible with the shedding. 

MD: I live by the lint brush.

JK: Same, you have to! 

MD: So I’m gonna ask you, Final Question. Do you have a favorite cat? I know they say never pickfavorites with your kids but … let’s be real. 

((no hesitation))

JK: Of my three cats my favorite is without a doubt Boo - my first cat. I tell that to their faces too, no lie. I’ll tell Boo, "You’re my favorite and those other two fucking suck. "

THANK YOU MITCHELL! 

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